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所说 Valve 泄露源代码是一场骗局,目的是……

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发表于 2003-10-10 11:15:00 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
在一些Half-life的相关网站上都出现了一个所谓匿名泄露者的声明,此人声称对HL2源代码泄露负责,他指责说实际上这次泄露事件是Valve故意制造的,为游戏延期制造借口:

"对于那些说HL2延期是因为黑客行为的话,我要提醒你们的是所泄露的内容正是Valve所需要的,不多也不少,所以很容易理解的就是HL2根本就没有完成。

我还想指出在E3上的Demo是Valve制造的一个大骗局,你尝试过在物理城市中杀人吗?注意到门已经被踢开了没有?没有一系列脚本?

我要对每个人说的是根本就没有Beta版本:我要指出这仅仅是你们希望Valve在9月30日发布HL2,但是在Valve的网络中根本就没有一个更好的版本!

致Valve:我建议你们停止对用户撒谎有多少东西被偷,我就发布一切来证明我的观点,和我一样,你们知道你们所做的一切。"

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另外,该匿名人士还声明发布一个基于Half-Life 2源代码引擎可玩的Half-Life和Counter-Strike拷贝,他还可能发布一个
老版本的Counter-Strike: Condition Zero或者一些和Counter-Strike 2相关文件

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 楼主| 发表于 2003-10-10 11:17:00 | 显示全部楼层

Re:所说 Valve 泄露源代码是一场骗局,目的是……

I'm not sure if it's really a great idea to post this, but "Anonymous Leaker" -- the guy who is apparently responsible for releasing the slightly playable pre-Alphaish version of HL2 which is unfortunately in circulation -- has released a statement of sorts. Here's a snip:

To all those saying HL2 was delayed because of the hacking action, ill just remind you that what was leaked is what Valve has, nothing more and nothing less, so its pretty good to understand it wasnt finished yet.

Also I'd like to point out the E3 [demo] was one big fake by Valve. Ever tried to kill that soldier in physicstown ? Notice the door will still get kicked ? No scripted sequences ?

To everyone saying this is no Beta: I'd like to point out that THIS is what you wanted Valve to release on 9/30/03, theres no such thing as a much better release in Valves network!

To Valve: I suggest you stop lying to your customers about how much was stolen/compromised, or I'll have to release everything just to prove my point. And you know what you got, as I do.

Yikes. WARNING, BRIEF EDITORIALIZING AHEAD!

I'm not going to sit here and say I completely agree with Valve's policies, because I've criticized them in the past regarding how they handled the original release date delay announcement, among other things. And judging by what this guy says about the status of the game and professional game developer's analysis of what has leaked so far, it does seem pretty clear that the game isn't really that close to being done and hasn't even reached solid Beta status.

If this assessment is true, that would contradict a whole bunch of things Valve has said in the past, and make their behavior regarding the whole 9/30 release date drama even more questionable. But even so, that doesn't give "Anonymous Leaker" the right to help distribute stolen property. Leaking pre-release content like this hurts the fans, it hurts Valve, and it only serves to cause further delays in Half-Life 2's development.

Again, we encourage you to steer clear of all this junky leaked content. Don't support the actions of retarded, lonely, socially inept children who want to be big shots on IRC.

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 楼主| 发表于 2003-10-10 11:18:00 | 显示全部楼层

Re:所说 Valve 泄露源代码是一场骗局,目的是……

Well, it appears that this "Anonymous Leaker" character wasn't bluffing, because now he's apparently released something that lets you play Half-Life and Counter-Strike using Half-Life 2's source engine. And he's also supposedly released an outdated build of Counter-Strike: Condition Zero (it's going gold Friday, see yesterday's story) and/or possibly something that deals with Counter-Strike 2. We really don't care to know the details, and we can't exactly confirm this because we refuse to download these releases ourselves. And we of course strongly suggest you don't download any of this stolen material either.

The latest release notes are pretty much devoid of any commentary from the leaker, but they do seem to call into question the existence of a complete HL2 beta. While the notes confirm a HL2 "pre-Beta" isn't currently in circulation, that doesn't necessarily mean that it doesn't exist and won't be released later. It's hard to say.

But I think it is safe to say at this point that perhaps Valve's and Vivendi's previous statement that only "a third of the source code was stolen" was perhaps slightly innaccurate.

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发表于 2003-10-10 11:38:00 | 显示全部楼层

Re:所说 Valve 泄露源代码是一场骗局,目的是……

如果真是这样,那么Valve不仅做到了跳票还赢得了同情,而且做了一次免费的广告啊。
不过有一点想不通,他们把这么破烂的东西故意泄露出来(跟E3上的展示相差十万八千里)不是搬石头砸自己的脚吗?

或者Valve真是很高深,故意制造疑团,来吸引眼球?(也许泄露的只是HL2开发早期的一个版本,我想他们不至于笨到把几年的心血拱手送人吧)

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发表于 2003-10-10 11:48:00 | 显示全部楼层

Re:所说 Valve 泄露源代码是一场骗局,目的是……

. . . . . .
那总的来说这个代码的组织方式能不能算是优秀啊?
是不是一个可以借鉴的范文喃?
这种写法是不是算是游戏里OO比较好的写法啊?
还是.....
谁评价一下HL2代码的质量啊?

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发表于 2003-10-10 12:06:00 | 显示全部楼层

Re:所说 Valve 泄露源代码是一场骗局,目的是……

绝对不是的,。
这绝对是一个确确实实的泄漏事件。
谁说这个E3泄漏版本里面人物没有AI??
我玩的和E3的录像几乎一摸一样。
而且我泄漏代码编译以后的,能成功载入BETA的地图。
而且BETA里面的效果已经非常不错了,打个比方,即使这个代码是VALVE泄漏的,这个也不会是什么VALVE没用的,起码因改算是世界FPS
游戏的前列,也是非常有研究价值的。

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发表于 2003-10-10 12:16:00 | 显示全部楼层

Re:所说 Valve 泄露源代码是一场骗局,目的是……

这位兄弟,那你能不能把你编译的经验给大家分享一下啊,我们的都编译失败了

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 楼主| 发表于 2003-10-10 12:32:00 | 显示全部楼层

Re: Re:所说 Valve 泄露源代码是一场骗局,目的是……

RenderBoy: Re:所说 Valve 泄露源代码是一场骗局,目的是……
......
而且我泄漏代码编译以后的,能成功载入BETA的地图。
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原来代码是你泄露的呀,呵呵,能把经验跟大伙一起分享吗?

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发表于 2003-10-10 13:02:00 | 显示全部楼层

Re:所说 Valve 泄露源代码是一场骗局,目的是……

倒…………
我打多了一个字,呵呵~

我看泄漏代码完成度因改不低!管他是真是假,反正研究好了。

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 楼主| 发表于 2003-10-10 13:50:00 | 显示全部楼层

Re:所说 Valve 泄露源代码是一场骗局,目的是……

就怕我们大家是白高兴一场呀,如果真是故意泄露的话,那他泄露的代码就不会涉及到核心部份,如果我们花费一年时间才能将所有代码搞通的话,那不是浪费了很多时间吗?那这么说Valve到底是用意何在呢,仅仅是因为不能按时推出hf2所制造的一个借口吗?
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