没有人在中国喜欢D3D12？

wu_chung_tang

握紧拳头 发表于 2016-5-9 10:19
目标不一样而已，可以承担的内容不一样。举个例子，2个肥皂厂，都有一个问题：不知道生产线上打包好的肥皂 ...

As a result, Chinese firms would never become tech giants but just Shanzhai giants. Big quantity but low quality.

握紧拳头

wu_chung_tang 发表于 2016-5-9 12:23
As a result, Chinese firms would never become tech giants but just Shanzhai giants. Big quantity b ...

我不排斥山寨，只要东西是‘美’的。为什么我讨厌山寨？是因为很多取糟粕，去精华了。让人厌恶。能去做领导者是你的幸运，而不是众人的追求

snghun

wu_chung_tang 发表于 2016-5-9 12:23
As a result, Chinese firms would never become tech giants but just Shanzhai giants. Big quantity b ...

是的。
中国人只会山寨。

不只是游戏产业。
自从第一次工业革命，中国人几乎没有任何值得骄傲的科技创新。

可能的原因有几个：

1.智力不足
虽然中国人的平均IQ被评为世界一流，但是，高科技是依靠最高智商的，而不是平均。
我认为，美国的高智商人群的IQ 高于 中国的高智商人群。

2.国家缺失版权意识
中国是盗版大国。中国人的思想就是“你有什么新技术，我就拿过来用”。
因此，没人愿意去研究。人们都在等着别人去研究，然后自己拿过来用。

3.生活贫困
虽然中国的GDP能排名世界第二，但是，中国的人均GDP只排名世界第100左右。
因此，所受到的教育水平也比不过发达国家。

4.性格问题
中国的孩子，普遍都没有个性，独立性也很差，碰到问题就想放弃。
这种性格，不适合钻研高科技。

风回

握紧拳头 发表于 2016-5-9 10:19
目标不一样而已，可以承担的内容不一样。举个例子，2个肥皂厂，都有一个问题：不知道生产线上打包好的肥皂 ...

这个例子挺有意思

wu_chung_tang

snghun 发表于 2016-5-9 13:34
是的。
中国人只会山寨。

Generally agree with you, plus following comments:

1.智力不足
I think it's not fair to simply say "American/Japanese are smarter than Chinese", the fact can be concluded into two points: first, IQ of Chinese has largely used to invent those suff such as "Digouyou"/fake food. Secondly, as a result of brain-drain, outstanding Chinese scientific/tech people are constantly moving to developed countries (almost all my highschool classmates with major in science/engineering whose academic mark >= mine, don't live in China), thus the consequence is obvious.


2.国家缺失版权意识
中国是盗版大国。中国人的思想就是“你有什么新技术，我就拿过来用”。
因此，没人愿意去研究。人们都在等着别人去研究，然后自己拿过来用。
Exactly, the sterotype of Chinese in the western world is, "like cheating". It's still fundamentally assosiated with the issue of Digouyou/toxic food. We can imagine in such society, even the most smart people were all in China, they would contribute nothing to human if not destroying it.

3.生活贫困
Well, you probably don't know thanks to the report on the economic growth of China, many in the west more or less feel that "China has been rich already", though as a former Chinese, I fully understand what you are saying, the desparity in wealth distribution and we know those who got rich in China, typically property investors, we know they are fundamentally different animals, don't we?

4.性格问题
Thanks to the education(brainwash) system as well as the family structure under one-child-policy.

VHwy

wu_chung_tang 发表于 2016-5-7 13:59
And we all know who really benefit from that kind of "economic growth".

To be honest, if I were r ...

Well，I really wonder where u from. 1990s is a good time for internet start-up, and single games is so classic~ but it's pass, i was young at that time. so all i need to do is keep the creative power of that times and create a wonderful game!

i have no plan to purchase house. i'm on the way~

aiiaib

some flaws:
we do not unite,we like attack each other(in non-violent ways,espacially internet)
we do not know a lot about foreign countries(we can't use yout*be goo*le etc)
we do like new ideas but who do investment doesn‘t ,and we want jobs,so we don't like new ideas
we love money,because we have no confidence to live a good life without lots of money(I don't agree but more than 70% people do)
so,bullsh*t child dreams,bullsh*t new ideas,bullsh*t ethical judgements,just we don't against laws therefore we can do it

but,we love our family,we love ourselves,we are hard-working,we can develop great indie games,we want to change

please forgive my written English,  not using for long time

wu_chung_tang

aiiaib 发表于 2016-5-11 13:23
some flaws:
we do not unite,we like attack each other(in non-violent ways,espacially internet)
we do ...

I attribute some of the issues (like why Chinese appear distinct and isolated in the world) you mentioned to absence of English language use in public. Just imagine if every educated people are able to work and live using the world standard medium, would you still need to receive info from China alone? A typical instance is why the communist has banned almost all websites from TW/HK but much of the rest of the world free? He assume that few Chinese would read English (that's indeed true, Chinese use Youku instead of Youtube, baidu instead of Google, QQ instead of Skype, all in all, isolated with the rest of world)

That's especially a pain for science/tech people like me. Since I studied in China, when I need to deal with math/electronic related stuff, I had to relearn all those terms once again, totally waste of time (obviously the party never assume you would work with foreigners).

It's also about how to keep up with the cutting-edge tech, which is documented in English alone. I recall some ten years ago when D3D 8.0 was released along with the first implementation of programmable shaders, I was struggling to read the SDK documents. When I worked in China, I often heard someone arguing about documents, "is there Chinese version"? Well, without using English, you are undoubtedly kept away from the cutting-edge, waiting for Chinese edition?

Never be hesitate to use English, which doesn't belong to any regional culture (although it used to), it's the common language of highly educated/smart human being on the earth.

wu_chung_tang

VHwy 发表于 2016-5-10 20:58
Well，I really wonder where u from. 1990s is a good time for internet start-up, and single games i ...

You haven't got my point why I prefer the China in 1990s:

The city was small and livable, we could easily go to the bookstore by bicycle with our friends.
The public safety was better, along with better environment...

Besides, the then-communist leader Jiang, unlike Xi, allowed us to watch American drama and Japanese cartoon in TV.

I was lucky to have grown up under Jiang/Hu's rule.

aiiaib

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